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  • marshal sandler · 1 year ago
    Qwitter could be another rooster crowing from the top of a Dunghill ! Geekery seems to be getting very negative !
  • geechee_girl · 1 year ago
    Well, the Internet makes everything seem somehow distant, which I think can breed negativity. Twitter had eliminated some of that by making things seem more personal again, but this is a tool that adds to much aggression to the mix, in my opinion.
  • mlewis106 · 1 year ago
    I really don't want to know who unfollows me. I would hope that if I say something on Twitter or any service that rubs them wrong, they have the guts to call me out on it. If I've unfollowed anyone at all, it's because they went overboard on political posts. Way. Overboard.
  • Eoghan McCabe · 1 year ago
    The idea that Qwitter is made to sell to Twitter (and moreover, force Twitter to buy it by being specifically evil) is really, really unfair and totally unfounded.

    We made Qwitter for fun because we know lots of people would want to use it. We say it would be cool to be affiliated with Twitter simply because they're cool guys. We started the app the week after we met with the Twitter founders and developers for beers and said on the way home "let's make a Twitter app".

    And that's all there is to it.

    Oh, and on a technical note, if Twitter wanted to stop us, all they'd have to do is block our IP. They could do it literally in seconds. They wouldn't even have to contact us, never mind buy us out!
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    Eoghan, thanks for your insight into Qwitter. While you may not have
    intended for people to draw the logical conclusion that you hoped
    Qwitter would be integrated into Twitter, your footer seemed to speak
    otherwise, so I have to side with Leslie in her comments, rather than
    seeing it as "really, really unfair and totally unfounded".

    Of course, they may just implement this feature on their own, and that
    would eliminate the need for a separate service.

    Are you planning on doing anything with Qwitter despite what's already
    been announced? Would you ever point this functionality at other
    social networks?
  • Mark Drapeau · 1 year ago
    Frankly, I am not even sure that Quitter works! I signed up for it, have lost a few people here and there, and have never been notified. Good thing "buy out" isn't the strategy!
  • geechee_girl · 1 year ago
    In my opinion, you can't really cry "unfair" when you a) design an app that can be used for unfriendly or plain aggressive purposes and b) give yourself that footer.

    And yes, the guys at Twitter are very cool people who seem to do all things related to their application with care. Look how long it took them to decide on what they considered an appropriate spambot policy to fit Twitter's MO. I'm interested to see how, or if, they do anything about Qwitter and Twitterless and the potential for negative impact on Twitter users.
  • S · 1 year ago
    Interesting idea. However, it is well known that Twitter is still in the beta stage - often will unsubscribe folks from other folks randomly. With no intent or interaction from user. So the data culled by the proposed service may easily not be accurate.
  • EzraButler · 1 year ago
    I think that part of being part of Twitter is understanding that not everyone wants to follow you, because perhaps your content is not relevant to my life in any way, shape or form.
    I was recently unfollowed by someone who I was shocked when he followed me in the first place. When I met him in Vegas, he commented to me "Honestly, is your twitter-stream really interesting enough to follow?" And you know what, when he unfollowed me, I took it in stride. I did not complain or ask why, because I knew why.
    On the flip side, I just (about 25 seconds ago) unfollowed someone, who I am praying *does not use* qwitter. His tweets were never useful, they have been teetering on the "spam-like" and the one time that I actually @ed him, I received carbon copy responses from multiple accounts. It honestly scared me to follow him. Do I want him to realize that I am no longer following him, and perhaps just start spamming my replies stream? Not exactly.
    Does this stop me from signing up for Qwitter? No. I am as interested in knowing what ticks people off as the next guy.
    I realize the double standard.
    And I don't have an answer for it. (I trust myself.)
    But in a public social space, we have to remember that friendships (or mutual followings) are somewhat symbiotic, and the second that that relation stops being "worth it" for one party, it is his/her prerogative to stop it.

    While I am not sure if this is a monetizable path, but I think that Qwitter would be more useful as an anonymous service. Meaning that @LouisGray can learn that he lost 9 people after a certain bunch of tweets, or, providing more analytics, that 4 people who rate between 90 and 100 on Twitter Grader stopped following him, and 5 people who rate between 40-50 stopped him as well.

    That's just my POV. That would be helpful, not impinge on the fluidity of the service, and act as a barometer for each tweeter to be able either temper their posts, or say "This is me, I will not change anything."
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    People use Twitter in a wide variety of ways. There's no "one right
    way" to use it. This can go for how often they post, their subject
    matter, who they choose to follow, what tool, etc. Twitter, in my
    opinion, is becoming ubiquitous in the way e-mail did years ago. We
    may not all agree on the e-mail client, or how often to write, or what
    length, or how frequently to check, but we're all using it.

    If people choose to follow me, or unfollow me, based on my activity,
    it's at their discretion.
  • geechee_girl · 1 year ago
    Ezra that *would* be useful with the anonymity of no actual names, just numbers in a day lost and the preceding several tweets you'd made.
  • Shripriya · 1 year ago
    The reality is that if you want to be a platform around which a cottage industry of applications develop, then there will be apps that you don't love. And from what I can see, Twitter really wants to be a platform and the more apps that are built on top of it, the more useful it will be.

    Everyone uses Twitter differently as Louis mentioned, so if people don't like Qwitter, they won't use it. If the community at large doesn't like it, it won't get traction. But if someone finds it useful, so what? Let them use it.

    And if one is so fearful about offending someone, then anon block them and you won't see their tweets. Until an app comes along that reports that as well :)
  • geechee_girl · 1 year ago
    For what its worth people seem to be having trouble quitting Qwitter. Hopefully that is a bug that will get fixed as people try the service and may decide it isn't for them after all.
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    So far as I can tell, it's either not working for me, or nobody's
    unfollowed me. I wonder which one it is. Maybe if I used Twitter more
    for conversation and less as an echo of my RSS feed, I'd see some
    defections.
  • geechee_girl · 1 year ago
    Interesting thing I've discovered about Qwitter, it is busting the spammers and marketers who follow to get the initial email sent to you then unfollow right after. I've gotten a few of those. It's a bit annoying, getting both emails, but it did amuse me a bit. I still think it is not a great service and can breed much negativity, but it seems it does have a use after all: busting the smarmy types out there. lol
  • Ankur · 1 year ago
    Thanks for this post! Had added this app recently and was disappointed to know of my first unfollow!

    Am a new kid on twitter and still learning the rules and tricks of the game!
  • musicmaestro · 1 year ago
    Qwitter's not a problem...just use twalala or another tool that mutes tweets w/o un-following people.
  • Stuart Robertson · 1 year ago
    I don't agree with this:

    "Up until now, the best feature of Twitter has been a level of anonymity for blocking people and unfollowing them."

    Everyone's profile shows how many people are following them, and who they are in order of most recent. If you see your followers # increase, click through to see who the new person is and perhaps follow them in turn... only to see that number drop back down again a few hours later - if you click through and notice your new person is gone again... that's hardly anonymous.
  • Goodbye, Buddy! · 5 months ago
    Qwitter hasn't been working for months now, so we -- the Tweeple :) -- created @goodbyebuddy who you can follow on Twitter and get a DM every time someone unfollows you. Easy as pie -- and it's more of a status update than an (anti-)social tool (just pointing this out, for the sceptics among you).