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Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

directeur — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:18:47 -0000

Louis, Life itself is not perfect. Trying to emulate it through software leads to an imperfect thing. It is that simple.

What I'm about, and that many don't seem to understand is not the attention on "me". I repeat : I choosed to be a nick. I'm 100 times happy when people appreciate "me" this way. They appreciate the ideas, not "me" as a biological entity. No matter what my past, future, present, geographical position, religion, financial situation... are.

I'll repeat it for the last time, I hope: I am not against fun! saying that I'm blaming the LOLCats is too short for a conclusion, it's really deeper than that. What I'm really about is the content and how it's served and used. You can say whatever you want, but one thing is for sure TRUE: Social tools are silly because they promote "names" like you said.

People are people, there's nothing to debug in them, it's the tool that's responsible for giving that stinky "contrast".

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

Louis Gray — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:53:07 -0000

FriendFeed is not perfect, but then again, neither is any other social
network, and of the many I've seen, it's at the top of the list in
terms of offering each user their own experience. You choose who you
follow, what services you see, how they are sorted, and how you choose
to comment, etc. That there is a gap between the haves and the have
nots is real, but I also believe FriendFeed offers those without a big
name the option to build one. Just look at Mona for a perfect example.
Where did she come from? And would you have known me if it hadn't been
for FriendFeed? I've been blogging on this site since January of 2006,
but FriendFeed really put some jet engines behind this thing.

Community is community. That people would rank themselves and their
self-worth based on total likes, comments, and interaction is no
surprise. Nobody wants to be the guy along the wall not being asked to
dance, but there's something to be said for being yourself and not
changing in an effort to get even more popular.

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:49:52 -0000

I can most certainly relate to the sentiment here... I think the interaction is a bit hit or miss at times... In my opinion FF is becoming like a micro-economy of its own. There are so many dynamics occurring at one time it is hard to always say which post might get more attention than another; many of the same issues plaguing bloggers seeking conversation, not attention.

I must say though, that whether I'm lucky or whether I have just stuck it out, I have really been enjoying the little community I have been chatting with in the past few months. There are really some great people I've met I would've otherwise not had a chance to meet... So for me - for now - FF is meeting my needs, and I link it to me letting go of the "quotas of participation" I had set in my own mind... simply a personal obstacle I overcame.

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

directeur — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:42:28 -0000

Sure! Can you please shoot me an email to directeur at the gmail dot com? I'll be glad to study this idea with you!

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

briantroy — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:43:34 -0000

Directeur -
I've created a FF Real Time to XMPP feed. Folks want keyword filters, etc. What would be cool is if their NoiseRiver account became the front end for the XMPP feed.
Otherwise I'll have to build the keyword filters/etc myself. Interested?

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

Andy C — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:19:02 -0000

I also recently 'quitted' FriendFeed. I liked the service but more recently the signal was vastly greater than the noise.

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

Outsanity — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:25:06 -0000

I almost want to agree without everyone being mad at me but it does feel like that at times but, that's the iLife. I just don't let it fester with me because it's just a social site. That's like me saying I'll quit Facebook or MySpace because I don't have "OVER 9000" friends or no one reading my profile/blogs.

I see no need to quit a site unless you really need to. If anything, just take a little iVacation.

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

directeur — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:03:59 -0000

Louis, yes, I should have closed it ;-) No seriously... Thanks for the attention! I really appreciate it. I doubt that i'll really be back on Friendfeed... It's a combination of two parameters: people and the tool. For the "people" part. It's the way it is since the very first day of this planet. For the tool part, I still humbly think that the web MUST evolve to much smartness using concepts like Attention Profiling (APML).

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

ericflo — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:59:06 -0000

I do understand directeur's complaints, though. Plenty of people follow me, but for whatever reason FriendFeed still seems like a one-way channel for communication. The top participants post cool stuff, and I comment on it. Sometimes someone will respond to me on one of their posts, but never do discussions start on my own items. That being said, I do enjoy the things that the top participants post enough to keep going back :)

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

Louis Gray — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:45:14 -0000

Directeur, if NoiseRiver is not closing, then it completely
invalidates this post. Now, you almost have to keep it down, just to
make it right. :-)

I hope it does return, and that your leaving FriendFeed is similarly
incorrect. Stick around.

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

directeur — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:41:49 -0000

Louis, I'm not closing it actually. It's just a technical issue with DNS. The website is still available on http://www.noiseriver.com (working on getting the naked domain working again) This said, I won't close NoiseRiver because I'm leaving :)

Re: louisgray.com: NoiseRiver Shuts Down After Developer Ditches FriendFeed

.LAG — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:27:16 -0000

Perhaps the filtering features directeur was working on can be examined and considered by the FF team. We all know that FF needs exactly those features that NoiseRiver set out to address. Still, I'm bugged by another public 'quitting.' What's great about this digital cloud that we share is that everyone is free to come, participate, and leave as they wish. but maybe that's me, I've never been good at hello's or goodbye's.