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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:05:17 -0000

Fried, great point... it is the ecosystem that helps. I liken this to an OS. If you have great applications that reside on the OS, then you are probably going to be thought of by more people...

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Friedbeef — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:21:14 -0000

The app store or marketplace would be its make or break for Pre....

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Phil Glockner For Hire — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:54:00 -0000

Ken, that's probably good adivce. I'm notoriously bad at noticing rings, or hands actually. All I saw was the phone.

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Rex Espiritu — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:46:51 -0000

Thank you for your reply, Ken.

Yes, I agree. To help clarify and reflect further in dialogue, if I am understanding what they may be getting at here, it's not the product itself, but a/the change in how we view, apply, and employ such to better use and living.

I, too, was "blown away" by the transformative sense of seemingly effortless "being" in the more natural way this technology may be used by paying attention to "getting out of the[/our] way"! In this season of Epiphany, it was literally awe inspiring for me to watch this on my laptop, unfolding as it were a new vision of being for the future. There's a whole new world of possibility that appears to open up with this "newness" if its implications are really what I am thinking it will mean for our notions of mobile handheld worldwide communications.

I also concur with your sentiment that this or that being an iPhone or Blackberry "killer" is totally irrelevant. Competition in the global economy is good. To paraphrase the proverb: "As iron sharpens iron, so one [company or product] sharpens another." However, the larger, more important overarching view is much more exciting to consider in light of this new beginning for Palm, and possibly the rest of us users of technology as well.

Again, thanks for sharing in the technological discourse and journey with each other.

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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:05:00 -0000

Awesome, Phil... why is it that I keep focusing on both presenters' rings? When recording video of your hands 1) remove jewelry and 2) make sure you clip your nails ;-D

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Phil Glockner For Hire — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:58:00 -0000

Another good hands-on movie: http://www.mobilecrunch.com...

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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:55:04 -0000

Thank you for the link, Rex. The interesting thing here is that it is not the Pre, itself, that I would position as the game changer, but how Palm is attempting to market the product - as a solution to your problems that 'typical' devices might offer.

While some of that might just be hype, I am blown away by how the interface interacts with you, and Palm has always done a fairly good job at trying to anticipate what its customers want and what they don't know they want.

We shall see whether they can continue to deliver. While most tout that it has to be, or might not be, an iPhone or BlackBerry killer - that is irrelevant. There should be enough market to go around, and the trend is for our technology to do more to help us while interfering less with how to do for us - than in years past.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us here, Rex.

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Rex Espiritu — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:27:39 -0000

Thank you for your article. I posted a link to this blog post on my wall in Facebook with the following comment:

FYI - Here's an interesting article by Ken Stewart that highlights some salient points on the recent product introduction of the Palm Pre. In it he writes about Palm's new webOS platform and aspects of it that in his terms are "game-changers", providing for a potential paradigm shift, not only in the mobile handheld, personal digital assistant device market, but for the interface between industry's technology and people, particularly in the way we live, communicate, and manage our information via the internet on the web worldwide.

For this reader, it provokes further thought: Not just on the face of it, but deeper down below the surface, there seems to be an underlying premise with the aspiring promise of moving toward a better way of doing things we've been doing with technology, and a more freeing lifestyle that enhances our social relational networks in the global multinational economy for upcoming millennial generations. This is ingenuity, creativity, innovation toward its best...

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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:44:00 -0000

For another interesting perspective on the Pre (via Mona): http://pixelbits.wordpress....

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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:27:22 -0000

Edwin, I tend to agree, but I can't help but think that Apple's control does attempt to offer better stability. I think it's a play for control, personally, but that's my opinion ;-)

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Edwin Khodabakchian — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:48:12 -0000

I have not seen the device yet but from the reports I think that the one thing that might save them is that they invested in a truly open development platform. The iphone leaves very little room for differentiation on the user experience and ease of use but their way of building native applications is very proprietary which is not going to be sustainable in the long run.

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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:29:00 -0000

Hey - I heard that Mona is really excited that she can finally program in AJAX for the new Pre ;-P

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David Bennett — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:13:26 -0000

My first thought - even before I know what it does - is how well does it integrate? If it does that and it is cheap (to buy and to run) I could be interested.

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ChangeForge | Ken Stewart — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:44:00 -0000

Great video by Phil: http://friendfeed.com/e/ffd...

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Louis Gray — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:30:00 -0000

Post by Ken Stewart: http://www.friendfeed.com/c...