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Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

nickhalstead — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:23:41 -0000

I am not sure until we release our next major update that I will convince you or Duncan, at that point I am pretty convinced everyone will see what we are bringing to table for all blogs big and small will be of massive benefit.

Until then we will continue to try and grow our user base and hopefully you may even start to see comments from a different sector, but for now most of our audience is interested in a lot more mainstream topics and the comments are flowing to those sites.

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Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

Louis Gray — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:46:19 -0000

Nick, we've talked before about how Fav.or.it has plans that lie outside the early adopter tech geek market, where Duncan and I typically play. And from the statistics you mention, it's likely your visitors are different than ours, who may find it easier to go to one source and get the full blog content and comments.

That said, I believe that if this practice were made more transparent, many of those bloggers for whom you are already importing full feeds and comments would have a big problem with this, and so far, given the site's relative obscurity, this hasn't yet happened.

As for FriendFeed "fragmenting the comments" and "stealing the attention away" from the blog, I feel I've answered that issue many different times. In actuality, FriendFeed has been a significant traffic driver for me and for others. And comments that occur on FriendFeed can be pulled into the original blog source. What's not happening is that comments here (yours for instance) are flowing their way.

How do you think you can help bridge the gap with people like Duncan who are vehemently opposed to the way you're going about it, and what you're trying to do? Of note, I'm not opting out.

Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

gregorylent — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:13:20 -0000

hyper-connectivity means just that, everything is connected, nobody owns anything, the collective is the only reality ... the line between government, business, personal is being erased.

this is a big adjustment for everybody. fav.or.it is just the beginning. and somebody in the near future is going to steal/use their feed/data in a even higher-order level of functioning.

this river will not stop until it reaches the ocean.

Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

shafqat — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:50:52 -0000

I would agree that importing comments is crossing the line (and then some). We're including just RSS summaries, and have tried to individually reach out to every feed owner on NewsCred and get their opt-in permission, rather than a complicated opt-out process.

Duncan - Tried to reach out to you about the Inquistr feed, but no response! Until we hear otherwise, we assume you've opted out so we'll refrain from using your feed.

Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

Nick Halstead — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:20:47 -0000

If you go back and look at previous coverage for fav.or.it the pulling + pushing of comments was the most coverage aspect of the service! TechCrunch / Mashable must have at least written 2-3 posts each about the commenting aspect.

The fact is we cannot make a usable site for the mass market unless we produce a service which brings everything together in one location. This means making commenting easy / making finding new content easy, and not requiring them to have to register for multiple services.

We believe by doing this yes we have a sub-set of your blog - but the functionality we bring for users to find your content and interact with it is much greater than on your own blog. And bottom line, if you dont like it email me and its dropped easy as that. But I hope that you understand we CAN bring you a new audience that you dont have.

Our traffic stats show that our demographic is 75% Internet explorer - what is yours 80%+ Firefox? this shows we are attracting the mass market and that can only be good thing to bring blog content to that audience.

I would just like to point out that on one hand you say you love friendfeed but friendfeed is stealing the attention away from your blog and fragmenting the comments, we do aggregate comments (they are public feeds we access!) BUT we also push comments back again, something no one else in the world is doing right now.

Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

Louis Gray — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:01:06 -0000

That Fav.or.it is importing comments to their service actually bothers me more than them showing my full feed. I don't mind as much if my own data is re-used, but by copying the comments over entirely, they're effectively making their own site the superset. I don't believe that many other bloggers realize this is happening.

Re: Fav.or.it Comments On Commenting Statistics

Duncan Riley — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:58:13 -0000

Seriously, they're importing comments as well....have they no shame at all?