DISQUS

Adam Ostrow · 1 year ago

I think once the FriendFeed/Disqus integration is complete, it could be a real tipping point for Disqus in terms of getting it on more of the high traffic blogs to jump on. Ultimately a big part of a blog's value is engagement and community, and Disqus is already proving it can drive that (I'm noticing that I'm way more likely to comment on blogs w/ Disqus than w/out).

Pull in all of the comments from FriendFeed and the other places the discussion is taking place and the benefits will really become overwhelming compared to the marginal loss of not getting your comments indexed by Google.

centernetworks · 1 year ago

why are you more likely adam?

Adam Ostrow · 1 year ago

Because I'm already registered, I get to build a repository of all of my comments that has its own RSS feed, they show up in FriendFeed and on my Disqus page, etc. Versus leaving a comment on a blog using a WP comment plugin where I'm just giving it to the blog owner and get nothing out of it, other than a tiny bit of mindshare with the author if they decide to reply to me.

JC John Sese Cuneta (謝施洗) · 1 year ago

I strongly agree. I comment more often on DISQUS enabled sites than those that still use their native/built-in comment system. And I don't even use FriendFeed's Comment system even though some WP blogs have it below/after DISQUS. The key requirement is a hassle - I just want to leave a comment.

The partnership that could develop will really finally complete the migration to "Comments 2.0" (yeah 2.0 again).

SezWho+DISQUS+FriendFeed, what else could we ask for?

Matt Shaulis · 1 year ago

What else could we ask for?

For starters, how about something that does not exclude other commenting utilities (like Intense Debate, Wordpress, Movable Type) and does not exclude other aggregation services where people comment (like Reddit, Shyftr, Social Median)?

What about something that will allow bloggers not using Disqus the ability to recieve comments pushed to them from social media community services?

Honestly, there's a lot more we could ask for... it's fun to get excited when 2 services are willing to work together to allow data to move more freely, but let's reserve our feelings of utmost salvation for an open solution that empowers multiple services and publishers to all enable two-way data flow among their applications and properties.

JC John Sese Cuneta (謝施洗) · 1 year ago

That's the beginning. From their partnership comes the other players joining in. We are not excluding anyone here. ^_^

graubart · 1 year ago

Would love to see FriendFeed integrate with Disqus. All the blog and social media feeds should be open to one another so you can follow a full thread from any platform. The platforms that think they'll win by keeping the discussion on their own site will, in the long term, lose.

gregory · 1 year ago

with technology we are modeling real life, so forget the ownership and page view needs for a moment ...

in real life most of our conversations are about other people, what they are doing, etc. most of the the time those "other people" are not present, nor do they have a clue ....

and often we are talking about other people's ideas, and how they combine with still other people's ideas, and all of this is going on without those people's presence or understanding or "ownership" of the conversation ... in fact it is a weird concept in real life

another weird concept is the one that says our ideas are our ideas ... 99.9999% of the time we heard them from someone else, or read them, or they are simply in the zeitgeist and obvious to many. they come into our mind from "somewhere", and mostly that is not in our control, what to say of under our ownership ....

so in the current time, where open is becoming far more valuable than closed, to even think about controlling parallel conversations is against the flow of reality. better to put one's attention to what enables the increase of omniscience for all, rather than the hoarding of the resource of communication for a relative few.

JC John Sese Cuneta (謝施洗) · 1 year ago

But in offline conversations, we do not have a means of communicating "worldwide" so we don't need such "ownership" concept and whatnot. In the world wide web, things evolved where we need "ownership" and being able to follow the conversation.

We say that 2 brains is better than one. Well, if we can follow conversations regardless of platform, then we are slowly building a world-conscience, a world-discussion.

SezWho+DISQUS+FriendFeed will be the power-trio in my PoV. And I like to add Outbrain.com to the list.

Matt Shaulis · 1 year ago

Let's consider ideal solutions for a second (something nobody has, but with enough debate and willingness among service providers, something we can inch closer and closer to): Nothing should "force" a users comment to go back to the originating source. That option should be left unto the person making the comment... as should the original source's *option* to accept/display that comment if/when it does come back to them... It's not about magically shuffling all the data around, it's about creators choice. Blog authors *choice* to display the comments they want to display under their post; Comment authors *choice* to share their opinion with a group of friends, the world at large, the author of the content being commented on, or not, etc. Most people are abandoning the concept of free choice in this debate. Right now it's a carnival of: "how can we teach our machines to whisper to each other and parse the entire conversation between this service and that service..."

This notion that every comment belongs in a single place is beyond silly... it's dangerously ignorant of the volume of conversation that is possible in today's social media landscape. To take every comment left on one of Scoble's or Arrington's posts, form all over the web, and try to aggregate it into a single thread of comments under the original blog post will render that thread of comments completely valueless and impossible to follow. Talking about this like there is some mysterious "one size fits all" solution that will seat us all on a bullet train to Happy-Town is doing nothing to reach an optimal solution.

Perhaps what we need is a "Pact" that ALL services (from blog software providers, to aggregation services, to comment management services) can become a part of that aims to provide a solution "protocol" that considers all the *people's rights* and possible *options*... (Note I carefully chose the word "protocol" versus "platform"): MicroFormats or Meta Identification for "comment repository" (for fetching existing conversation) and "comment receptacle" (for contributing to the conversation) come to mind. It's not about services going behind a curtain and "teaming up" to wrangle anything... it's about open specifications that bar none from participation. I am more than willing to participate in open discussions with service providers, bloggers, community members, everyone... Open standard implementations are the answer here, and it's not gonna happen overnight, but as long as the ethos of "partnerships" and proprietary APIs are the modus operandi, then this thing will never get better.

Leslie Poston · 1 year ago

I would love to see SezWho, FriendFeed, Disqus and the orginating blog play int he same sandbox. I have so many demands on my time already that keeping up with the conversation often gets lost in the shuffle. @geechee_girl

JC John Sese Cuneta (謝施洗) · 1 year ago

Can't agree more. Thanks to DISQUS, I can now keep up with the DISQUS-sions. (seriously :p and I discover new blogs too!)

Joe Dawson · 1 year ago

Same here, I have only recently just signed up but I rate it highly, integration with FriendFeed would be great. I am on Blogger and there is no FriendFeed plugin yet for the site like WordPress so something like this would be well received!

Daniel Ha · 1 year ago

I made this comment on Steven's blog a minute ago:

Hey guys, just a note: our API does have a write-back method. The docs are online but not public just yet. It's being used/tested by some services.

Chris Baskind · 1 year ago

I'm liking Disqus so far, having been testing it on a largely unused site the past few days.

I'd appreciate the FF integration. It would certainly tip me toward installing Disqus on my production sites.

centernetworks · 1 year ago

sorry - that won't work - all that does is force everyone into disqus. of course, it would bring the two valley darlings together.

fredwilson · 1 year ago

the answer is not just FF=>disqus, but FF=> disqus, intense debate, wordpress, typepad, blogger, etc, etc

but disqus is probably the best starting point

actually, there's a WP plugin that does FF=>wp.org

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/friendfeed-...

so it's happening already. this is a good thing, a very good thing

centernetworks · 1 year ago

here i am replying on disqus instead of on louisgray.com or on my site (as you posted here).

the usage of your blog, and my blog are different.

Khris · 1 year ago

Hi Fred,

Given that you have invested money into Disqus your

"disqus is probably the best starting point"

comment is self serving.

In future, before you sell the community on your opinions please disclose
your financial relationships.

I am with JS-Kit. We provide Comment, Polls, & Ratings widgets for over
65,000+ blogs worldwide.

Be Well,

Khris, CEO
http://js-kit.com

fredwilson · 1 year ago

Well I've disclosed my investment in disqus on every post I've ever done on
my blog.

I think people know where I am coming from

And plus, I tried a bunch of things and then went with disqus on my own blog
a long time before I invested in disqus (at least six months before I
invested in disqus)

So my opinion is also based on my experiences as a blogger

I really do think that disqus is the best starting point

fred

StevenHodson · 1 year ago

I had a thought about this as well this evening :)
http://www.winextra.com/2008/05/28/just-a-wacky...

Louis Gray · 1 year ago

Yes, I saw that. Good work. I logged into Google Reader, and saw your post just after mine. You know what they say about minds that think alike...

mathewi · 1 year ago

what a coincidence :-)

http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/28/blo...

Tyler · 1 year ago

awesome post, well done!

Michael McGimpsey · 1 year ago

FriendFeed comments need improving. Disqus is most definitely the way to go. Fingers crossed that this does happen. FriendFeed would reach a whole new level with the Disqus commenting system.

centernetworks · 1 year ago

hey louis- you got fred love - that's awesome - I hope to get that one day!

ianbetteridge · 1 year ago

Daniel confirmed that they were working on two-way integration with FF in a reply to a comment I posted at the Disqus blog a month ago (see the bottom of http://blog.disqus.net/2008/03/24/add-your-disq...).

This means that that if I reply to a comment on FriendFeed for a blog which supports Disqus, it will show up back on the originating blog. And that will be a MAJOR step forward for me.

Chris Nixon · 1 year ago

Comment is King. The creation of conversation across the web seems to now be coming together in a useable and consistent way.

JC John Sese Cuneta (謝施洗) · 1 year ago

Yep. There's just too many content creators already. And majority are not even creators but aggregators or republishers. It's time to get a real communication going - discussions. Two-way. One blast, discuss all we want.

DISQUS is the perfect tool. They have "categories" within discussions which I haven't even touched yet.

sarahintampa · 1 year ago

If Disqus integrates FriendFeed, I would be insanely happy! The WP plugin is great, but it still looks a little chopped up to have 2 sets of comments. To have it all streamlined would be amazing.

Curtis · 1 year ago

That would be a great thing if the two were combined. I guess it really doesn't matter where to comments are, as long as the discussion is ongoing.

Free Games · 3 weeks ago

I think it would be awesome if Disqus can integrate with FriendFeed