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louisgray.com: louisgray.com: As Twitter Regains Footing, Competitors' Growth Stalls

  • Jeff · 1 year ago
    hmm interesting. i find myself using twitter more often now for absolute no reason at all.
  • brianjesse · 1 year ago
    This weekend Twitter has been more reliable than Identi.ca. Steve Gillmor 'dented a threat about returning to Twitter. And Dave Winer tweeted that he was thinking of mirroring his tweets to Identi.ca.

    During the conventions, and up to and including this weekend, Identi.ca has found out what Twitter already knows: the Jabber chat protocol "firehose" can be a wild stallion, even for a site that is an "increasingly quiet echo chamber". It's the same feature that brought the Fail Whale at Twitter during the primaries in May. It is now disabled at Twitter but for approved vendors such as FriendFeed and Gnip.

    You forgot to mention that the number of MicroBlogging networks is growing exponentially.

    I was at CNET in San Francisco last Friday with Evan Prodromou and representatives from Twitter, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Disqus and Seesmic. Evan mentioned that there could be millions of MicroBlogging networks in a few years.

    There was a 58% drop in unique visitors to Identi.ca, that's the only service where anyone can take their friends and the site's software and make their home base wherever they want to. That probably affects the site's traffic numbers.

    I implemented the very same openmicroblogging protocol myself this summer. The 0.1 version of my Identi.ca-compatible software, OpenMicroBlogger, has been downloaded about 700 times in 3 weeks.

    -- Brian
  • Guest · 1 year ago
    I find it amusing that Evan of identi.ca was so disparaging to Twitter in the early days of identi.ca only to find out that scaling really is NOT easy.

    Karma's a bitch.
  • brianjesse · 1 year ago
    He should have just fixed the code himself instead of disparaging Twitter
  • Jesse Stay · 1 year ago
    Brian, your stat is very interesting to hear. I still think the future of microblogging isn't necessarily in these services themselves, but in the individual hosted solutions that will be installed at corporations and more. Twitter can't do that.
  • BeauGiles · 1 year ago
    As long as Twitteriffic continues to exclusively support Twitter, I think I'll be staying there :)
  • Sin the Mobopolitan · 1 year ago
    I deleted my Plurk account, visit FriendFeed about once a week.. perhaps. Use identi.ca for a single purpose, but Twitter?
    With me, every day, every where.
    The primary reasons why I stick with it is the user base and the number of apps/media channels etc where you can post as well as get your feed. Not just desktop, but mobile as well.

    However,
    "Twitter has the potential to be the conduit for the SMS and text messaging generation to social media."
    This may be a truth of the past. Way to many people I know in the UK, and some other countries, relied on the SMS part. With that shut down, as well as the IM still not restored, the road to glory may be slightly less smooth.
  • Mark Evans · 1 year ago
    Like STM above, I'm an avid Twitter user while I've abandoned Plurk and identi.ca. Twitter is where the party is happening so why leave for another micro-blogging service with little or no action. That said, in an ideal world, I'd like to see Pownce do better given it's a good service.

    As well, I'm surprised Friendfeed is seeing flat growth given it's still getting a lot of buzz.
  • thomashawk · 1 year ago
    Twitter doesn't have pictures. FriendFeed does. Pictures are pretty. I like my microblogging experience to be both text and visually based. I'm biased of course though as a photographer. I far prefer FriendFeed over Twitter. But I was a little surprised seeing compete's last month comparison between FriendFeed and Twitter. Beyond the pictures issue, FriendFeed seems to be such a superior platform due largely to how they present conversations around posts and media in ways that Twitter does not. And they do have a great deal of momentum and enough of a strong user base to grow their service at this point. I used to think that FF would surpass Twitter within 6 months. Now I'm not as sure.
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    I too am a bigger fan of FriendFeed than Twitter. That's been clear from my comments all year. But I see no reason that Twitter must lose for FriendFeed to win.

    Also, we know Compete.com statistics are somewhat suspect, but it's clear, at least to me, that the big user growth at FriendFeed has slowed, while Twitter has renewed. The stats don't have to be right, but I think they do nail the trend.
  • Jesse Stay · 1 year ago
    I'd love to see other laconi.ca instances in this study - I'm curious if traffic for laconi.ca has just been spread thin to other instances, rather than back to Twitter. Examples like Twit Army, for instance. I know a few people that have moved over there. Interesting study though.
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    Jesse, your comment to Identi.ca on Saturday was one of the pieces that prompted me to check this out.

    Via: http://friendfeed.com/e/f0e54170-ba0a-2c91-a96a...

    You wrote, “Is it just me or has identi.ca really lost activity lately?”
  • Jesse Stay · 1 year ago
    I was wondering if that was the case :-) I'll have to check out some
    of the other Laconi.ca instances and do a follow up post to yours.
    Great findings though Louis!
  • DaveKnox · 1 year ago
    Louis - great analysis. Even though I have a presence on Friendfeed and Plurk, I was never really able to get into them. They were merely substitutes when Twitter was acting up. Based on these numbers, it sounds like my story is the same as many others.

    In my opinion, Twitter surviving and flourishing is best for the microblogging industry. More and more of my friends are start to come around on Twitter. But if they have to decide between Twitter, Plurk, etc then they are more likely to not try anything at all. One service being the go-to service is best for adoption of the technology
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    I tend to see FriendFeed and Twitter having much less of an overlap than some do. I continue to be a staunch supporter and big user of FriendFeed. But Twitter is a core ingredient of what makes FriendFeed go. That said, I definitely feel that the alternative services, like Plurk and Identi.ca, have lost momentum.
  • nikan · 1 year ago
    I don't think it is correct to include identi.ca in the comparison. Identi.ca is part of a federation. The aggregated population of all laconi.ca users would be a more appropirate metric.
  • brianjesse · 1 year ago
    @Jesse -- At the MicroBlogging summit on Friday, Leo Laporte mentioned that he now had around 5000 MicroBloggers at http://twit.army.tv

    Those people can "Follow" others at of any of the approximately 150-200 federated openmicroblogging services, and a given service could be running Laconi.ca or OpenMicroBlogger software. This is similar to how e-mail, FTP works -- you can choose your software as long as it adheres to the specification.

    @nikan -- I agree with you (and Jesse apparently is coming around) -- it's not correct to say that identi.ca is dying without mentioning the freedom its users enjoy.

    -- Brian
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    Yes, the federated nature of identi.ca makes calculating all their users difficult. But what this data does show is that the most visible, most discussed instance of laconi.ca has decreased month over month.
  • brianjesse · 1 year ago
    The article presents the data without explaining that Identi.ca's users can splinter off into smaller networks and stay connected to the mothership.
  • Wayne Schulz · 1 year ago
    Friendfeed became (to me) over-run with bloggers and their hanger ons. Maybe I'm not following the right people, but a few hundred bacon posts accompanied by a thousand comments (half of which get buried) just really isn't holding my interest.
  • Kevin Fox · 1 year ago
    I once heard Garyvee say "wait till Oprah gets on Twitter" it may just be a matter of time....
  • evbart · 1 year ago
    Identi.ca was defintely hype. Twitter has gone main stream for me, just check the #Ike tag and see al lthe different people on it.

    Yammer to me is the most interesting recent development. I'd love to see those features and stability on the Twitter platform, but I'll run them both side by side for now.

    Heard a rumor that Twhirl was going to allow you to manage both from their app.
  • Pete Flint · 1 year ago
    I think a big part of the growth is actually from the summize acquisition which now redirects to the twitter domain. See the growth here. http://siteanalytics.compete.com/summize.com/ The summize traffic growth halts as twitter now gets credit for the searches. You add the organic growth from twitter search/summize to the steady organic growth of the stable twitter and you see the nice pop in traffic. I think the traffic from this acquisition is accountable for the majority of twitter's recent growth.
  • DennisG · 1 year ago
    I think
    Twitter still accelerated their growth.
    http://siteanalytics.compete.com/summize.com+tw...

    The growth of Twitter outpaces the number of Summize
  • netik · 1 year ago
    Gee, you think that's because Twitter -bought- summize and is busily integrating features from Summize into the main site?
  • Louis Gray · 1 year ago
    Pete, your point on Summize's traffic pointing to Twitter, and
    therefore accounting for a good chunk of the service's rise in Web
    traffic, is undoubtedly spot on. Thanks for bringing that up, as I,
    and everyone else so far, had overlooked that fact.

    Of course, if the Summize integration were to account for Twitter's
    growth shown here, then it calls the entire premise into doubt, with
    the exception of the pronounced decline for the competition.
  • Zuffox · 1 year ago
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  • Anthony Farrior · 1 year ago
    If we haven't already, making twitter accounts to announce our latests posts is another great way to use twitter.
    Great, I've turned into a Twitter commercial...
  • svartling · 1 year ago
    Isn't Friendfeed flattened because this statics only counts friendfeed.com and not beta.friendfeed.com?
    Many use the beta site instead.
  • Zuffox · 1 year ago
    Both sites are counted - that is, if the term for beta.friendfeed.com is "site". I just checked it.
  • svartling · 1 year ago
    Ok. Just a thought.
  • Zuffox · 1 year ago
    And a good one at that.
  • StevenWillis · 1 year ago
    I posted last month on my blog about Twitter and why I started using it and today I find I don't go long without setting up Twhirl to see what is going on. I think Twhirl is why I keep going back, but the people I have found to follow are the reason I haven't lost interest.

    Twitter may of reached the tipping point. I think a combination of factors is coming together for them. The platform seems to be stable now and users are spending time tweeting about events and not Fail Whales. The number of users is growing and exposing even more to the service. And for me the most important part is the users themselves.

    Like I said before, I have been able to find users that are knowledgeable and post interesting stuff.
    When the Olympics were going on, I found people covering different aspects of the events. Now during the political campaigns, I see posts about issues.