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louisgray.com: louisgray.com: Are We Too Connected to Social Media?

  • Louis Gray · 11 months ago
  • Mona N. · 11 months ago
    ...and this is only the beginning. Like everything else, balance and moderation! ...says the person who's always connected. I need a Maryam in my life - someone that cares enough to drag me to places with no data or voice. Robert is a lucky lucky man!
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    Mona, I've got my wife to help me maintain balance. I laughed when Louis said he was jonesing from "going dark". I found that hilarious b/c I could both relate to the somewhat addictive behavior I demonstrate with online activities - but after I force myself to unplug I find that "real life" is enjoyable as well ;-)
  • AramZS · 11 months ago
    Isn't that the core reason why the top people online use social media? Sites like Twitter and services like RSS help keep people up to date and in the know. In the end, as much as we can try to automate aggregation of information, nothing beats the human touch. I hope the end-game for social media is to make us all smarter, that's what I use it for.
  • dpwilliams · 11 months ago
    "I hope the end-game for social media is to make us all smarter, that's what I use it for."

    I'll second that. Most of my friends just use social media to play around posting pictures of nights out and updating their status to be a witty as possible and try to look funny, fun but it doesn't mean much or carry much value.

    I don't think most people have used social media to its full potential yet and when they do they will use it as more of a learning/debate tool to help develop their opinions on things.

    I feel way too connected when I keep hearing people are "cooking dinner" or "watching a DVD". I don't want to connect for that. Who does? Just wrote this blog post http://tinyurl.com/8pdxdl it has a few feelings about this sort of thing.
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    dpwilliams, when you write, "Twitter is different things to different people. I think I have just about found what it is for me..." it strikes a chord with me. It is amazing to see so many different types gravitate towards various outlets and even something as simple as Twitter can mean so many different things to different folks. Imagine what FriendFeed could be?

    This is a service that is supposed to help you aggregate much of your lifestream, but think of the data that is there. As Scoble said, that is why Facebook has done so well at monetizing their model. But as Winer observed, it is a little scary to have all of your information in a "closed system" (owned by one company).

    It depends on whether these services can be ruled democratically or not, but we already have a major player like Google - so we will have to watch and see and hope that that company doesn't act like our SC Department of Motor Vehicles and just start selling our information to private marketing companies to make up for budget shortfalls.
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    AramZS, I really would like to think a perfect world is about this. However, I am not blind to know that monetization must occur for these types of services to stay viable. The general populace feels that they can get it for free, and do not want to pay - so this leaves advertising as one of the only viable mechanisms to monetize and pay for the overhead of running the services.

    With that said, all I hope for is that information is used and not abused. This seems to be the tendency of the human race throughout history. I hope I am just being a bit "Orwellian" - and I sincerely hope the future history makes a liar out of me. It would be good to be wrong about that!
  • victorseo · 11 months ago
    In Re: However, it begs a question in the context of its underlying purpose, “What is the end-game for this type of social experiment?”
    I don't see it as an experiment, any more than going to PTA. the Jaycees and the nightclubs. Internet social media simply "is". It is a facet of our lives; another avenue to explore, another way to grow into who we are.
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    So you do not believe we are in a very experimental phase of social media at this point? I like the idea of it being a facet of our lives, but I liken it to the teenage years or college years (if I might extend the analogy a bit) - where experimentation was about discovering who we were and who we were not. my concern and comments relate back to whether this allows us the opportunity to make-up who we are - as well as the more sinister concept of corporations or governments having an extreme level of access to our information. Not trying to be Mr. Conspiracy Theory, but I just wonder what the logical extension of this phase of our lives will be in 10 or 20 years from now?
  • victorseo · 11 months ago
    You could have just as easily applied the same question to the advent of the credit card industry 25 yrs ago. (or the invention of TV) Has it been abused? Yes. Has it helped society? Yes. Has it hurt society (particularly people who were not well equipped to deal with credit)? Yes.
    It is just another thread in our fabric.
    So, no, I don't see it as a sophomoric period before moving the human race to a greater maturity anymore so than electricity or automation.
    Orwellian fears are realized from the invention of the electronic database, not the internet. RFID tags will enable phenomenal drilling down into ever aspect of our lives. But the good that comes from that will offset the evil.
    As Web 2.0 revs up with a roar we have much to look forward to. In a few short years every scientist in the world will be able to collaborate across the planet, simultaneously, in real time to address disease, climate change, energy, and every major ill that endangers our future. Solution that now take decades may soon take mere months. It is really quite awesome and immensely satisfying to be a part of.
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    Very well put, Victorseo. Thank you for offering such a wonderful retort.
  • Scott Jarkoff · 11 months ago
    I can completely sympathize because at times it sure feels like we are too connected, that it is far too easy to track people using these new and exciting tools being built and introduced everyday. I think there comes a point where we need to self-moderate our actions, especially if we feel the interconnectedness is being a problem.

    Ultimately, for me, I like the connected nature of the new social web. It is a lot of fun, quite immature (ie. very young and uncertain where the future lies) and takes relatively little to opt out of once we become uncomfortable.
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    Scott, I tend to agree. For me, I enjoy the opportunity to share portions of my life with others and relish the thought of being able to extend the conversations. Like they say though, once your comment is out there - it's out there forever. Whenever I'm posting something I always try to think of those poor people whose silly cam stills get republished ;-)
  • Scott Jarkoff · 11 months ago
    I think that is a fair point too...in that many of the lesser savvy folks do not really comprehend that what they do on the web may very well be there forever. Certainly there are a great number of people who completely understand that and love it to death. They relish the very idea that their [insert favorite adjective] comment|video|website will be available for years to come.

    I'm with you...I enjoy sharing portions of my life with others. In fact, having moved overseas roughly 20 years ago, the advent of the internet made me in to what I am today. I had a necessity to share experiences, images and videos with my family back in the states, still do, so this is a part of my life. If I don't share, my family has no clue what I'm up to.

    So I guess you could say that not only do I enjoy sharing my life, but it is a necessary evil based on circumstances. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
  • dankeldsen · 11 months ago
    Hi all - good to see this surfacing again. Still think (and hope) that more good than harm can come from hyper-connectedness, but given the recent phishing attempts on twitter, clearly we're not all out to do good with these tools.

    Unplugging from the feeds from time to time ("after work" is such a foreign concept to me - but then again, I did just start a new company a month ago) is certainly a good idea. Don't do it nearly enough, even when not busy starting up a startup.

    It'll be interesting to see what 2009 holds for all of us. Better ways to engage with others, better ways to understand the flow, and heck yeah! I'll vote for making us all smarter. I aim to be smarter tomorrow than today every day I'm still breathing!

    Be seeing you!
    Dan
  • ChangeForge | Ken Stewart · 11 months ago
    Dan, thanks for swingin' by. I definitely agree with you. At this point there are far more benefits than drawbacks.

    By the way, if anyone hasn't given Dan a proper visit, you should stop by his blog http://biztechtalk.com or visit his new company http://www.informationarchitected.com/.

    As always, Dan, thanks for jolting my brain into just a little more thought.

    Well, that's it for me tonight gang. Stick a fork in me, I'm done. I'll catch all of you on the flip side, and thank you very much for a great conversation. I have learned a lot from each of you.
  • Michael Becker · 11 months ago
    I've come to the point where I wonder if social networking sites are taking over my life. I feel almost compelled or required to post to them, and since very few of them work together -- and especially since very few of my friends are early adopters like me and jump on to the newest and coolest sites -- I'm stuck with friends scattered across various sites.

    Yes, I'm more connected to them than ever before. Yes, I'm interacting with my friends regularly and intelligently; but is that connectedness worth the time? And would we really be better off if we had just one mega-meta-social network to join?
  • GrowMap · 5 months ago
    Social Networking provides a means for uncommon humans to find and collaborate with others who are more similar to them than those living in their physical proximity. What type of person you are and what your interests are creates enormous differences in how Social Media is used.

    As dpwilliams comments below, many use Twitter for entertainment while some of us use it to increase our wisdom and knowledge and connect with others capable of great insights and collaboration.

    While many will persist in trying to turn complex subjects into black and white decisions that is simply NEVER going to work. The problem is not that information is aggregated just as the problem with marketing is not marketing itself. It is marketing used badly.

    If only the general public could grasp the difference between good marketing and bad. Why do we collectively tolerate being force-fed advertising by multi-national corporations yet complain about almost every method small business owners use to try to reach us? Can we not tell the difference - or are we simply unwilling to invest the effort to tell the difference - between get-rich-quick con-artists and legitimate businesses?

    The concern with the Internet and Social Media is not WHAT is aggregated; it is for what unethical purposes all that information may be used. Marketing is the least of our concerns.